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AA Speaker – John K. – Fort Worth, TX – 2006 – Part 4

AA speaker John K. from Fort Worth walks through Steps 10, 11, and 12, explaining daily inventory, prayer and meditation, and carrying the message to other alcoholics with specific Big Book instructions.

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John K., an AA speaker from Fort Worth, TX, has been sober since September 4, 1999. In this AA speaker tape, he breaks down Steps 10, 11, and 12 in detail, walking through how daily inventory works in real life, what prayer and meditation actually look like in practice, and why intensive work with other alcoholics is essential to staying sober. He covers the specific promises that come from following these steps and ties them directly to Big Book passages.

Quick Summary

John K., an AA speaker from Fort Worth, walks through Steps 10, 11, and 12, explaining daily inventory as an ongoing practice throughout the day, not just at night. He discusses how Step 11 prayer and meditation work in practical terms, using specific examples of asking God for direction and pausing when agitated. John emphasizes that Step 12—carrying the message to other alcoholics—is not optional but essential to recovery, and he shares stories of sponsoring men and watching them transform when they work the program as outlined in the Big Book.

Episode Summary

John K. is a recovered alcoholic with over six years of continuous sobriety who has committed himself to studying and teaching the Big Book. In this AA speaker meeting, he focuses almost entirely on Steps 10, 11, and 12—the action steps that keep an alcoholic sober for life.

He begins by emphasizing that Step 10 isn’t introducing new information; it’s a continuation of the inventory work already learned in Step 4. The key difference is that Step 10 is a daily practice, done vigorously throughout the day, not just once. When resentments, fears, or dishonesty crop up—and they will—the action is clear: ask God to remove it, discuss it with someone immediately (usually his sponsor), make amends quickly if he’s harmed anyone, and turn his thoughts to someone he can help. John illustrates this with a real-world story from his early sobriety: a conflict with a coworker over a work decision. His first instinct was to retaliate and justify himself, but his sponsor insisted he make amends that same day. When he did, the coworker broke down and admitted he was wrong and had already called John’s boss. By taking action instead of resting on being right, John prevented what could have been a damaged working relationship.

John stresses a critical point: God wants to see him in action. Saying a prayer without following through isn’t a 10th Step—it’s a “John Kelly step,” and those lead to drinking.

He then reads directly from pages 86–87 of the Big Book, which outline the promises of Step 10 and beyond. He highlights some of the most powerful promises: that the obsession with alcohol will be lifted, that temptation will be met with automatic recoil (not willpower), that he’ll feel safe and protected, and that this happens without effort on his part. John contrasts this with his previous 37 attempts at sobriety in the 1990s, when he was always fighting the urge to drink. Now, he says, it just doesn’t occur to him. That’s the miracle.

On Step 11, John explains that it’s about prayer (him talking to God) and meditation (him listening). He reads the specific instructions from the Big Book: at night, he constructively reviews his day, asking himself tough questions: Was he resentful, selfish, dishonest, or afraid? Does he owe an apology? Was he kind and loving? Was he thinking of himself or of what he could do for others? In the morning, he considers his plans for the day and asks God to direct his thinking, especially away from self-pity, dishonesty, and self-seeking motives. When faced with indecision during the day, he pauses, relaxes, and asks God for the right thought or action. He practices reminding himself: “Thy will be done.”

John shares that he doesn’t follow a rigid meditation routine. Some days he reads prayers, but mostly he thanks God for waking up sober, expresses gratitude for his sponsor and his fellowship, and asks God to remove whatever stands in the way of his usefulness. The key is practice and consistency, not perfection.

On Step 12, John emphasizes that this is not optional—it’s the foundation of lasting sobriety. He quotes the Big Book: “Nothing will so much ensure immunity from drinking as intensive work with other alcoholics.” He reads from multiple places in the text where this message appears, even on page 16 (before the numbered pages), where it says one alcoholic can affect another in a way no non-alcoholic can.

John describes how he was given a sponsor with just 27 days sober and was told he couldn’t screw up—just read the book and sponsor the kid. This forced him to deepen his own understanding. He now sponsors multiple men, and he shares a powerful story of a man named Ben—angry, hopeless, barely able to read—who sat in the back row until John took him through the steps line by line. Ben did his inventory, and during his Fifth Step confession, something shifted. John then took Ben to every meeting, introducing him to everyone who walked through the door. Ben, who once hated people, eventually started giving out phone numbers and little red books to newcomers. John cried watching it happen, realizing that’s what God does.

John is clear about his method: he doesn’t tell newcomers about his spiritual experience. Instead, he lays out the problem, stresses the hopelessness of alcoholism, tells his war stories so the newcomer identifies with him, and then—once they see he’s like them but sober—he takes them through the Big Book as written. He doesn’t edit or soften it.

Finally, John returns to a passage on page 100 of the Big Book: “Both you and the new man must walk day by day in the path of spiritual progress. If you persist, remarkable things will happen.” He ties this back to the core message: if he practices these principles in all his affairs, if he stays plugged into God through prayer and service, and if he carries the message to others, the promises come true. It works.

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Notable Quotes

You’re not a normal person. You’re an alcoholic. You’re a chronic alcoholic. Your job is to do this 10th step stuff.

God wants to see me in action. I say the prayer, pick up the phone, take care of it. That shows God my willingness, right? Anything else is not a tenth step. That’s a John Kelly step. And that gets me drunk eventually.

If I’m doing my best and an opportunity doesn’t work out, that might be the sign that it ain’t for me, that I’m not in this flow.

When these crop up, not if, perhaps they’ll crop up. No, they’re going to crop up. Man, we’re just we’re humans. This that’s life. Resentments crop up. Fears crop up.

Nothing will so much ensure immunity from drinking as intensive work with other alcoholics. Just like we drink vigorously, I drink intensively.

If you persist, remarkable things will happen. We realize when we look back, the things which come to us. We put ourselves in God’s hands were better than anything we could have planned.

Key Topics
Step 10 – Daily Inventory
Step 11 – Prayer & Meditation
Step 12 – Carrying the Message
Big Book Study
Sponsorship

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Timestamps
00:00Introduction and opening remarks
03:00Step 10 overview and personal inventory as ongoing practice
08:30Story of workplace conflict and the importance of immediate amends
15:45Big Book promises and the difference between fighting urges and automatic relief
20:15Misconception about when to start Step 10 relative to completing amends
25:00Step 11 instructions for nighttime reflection and morning meditation
32:30Practical examples of pausing when agitated during the day
38:15Story of being away from sponsor for 48 hours and consequences
42:00Step 12 and intensive work with other alcoholics as foundation of sobriety
50:30Story of sponsoring Ben: from angry, hopeless man to carrying the message
58:45How to sponsor newcomers: laying out the problem before the solution
65:15Final promise from page 100: walking day by day in spiritual progress

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Topics Covered in This Transcript

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  • Step 11 – Prayer & Meditation
  • Step 12 – Carrying the Message
  • Big Book Study
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Welcome to Sober Sunrise, a podcast bringing you AA speaker meetings with stories of experience, strength, and hope from around the world. We bring you several new speakers weekly, so be sure to subscribe. We hope to always remain an ad-free podcast, so if you'd like to help us remain self-supporting, please visit our website at sober-sonrise.com.

Whether you join us in the morning or at night, there's nothing better than a sober sunrise. We hope that you enjoy today's speaker. I'm John Kelly.

I'm a grateful recovered alcoholic. And my sobriety date is September the 4th, 1999. And I'm pretty darn happy about that.

So is my family. So is a lot of people who came in contact with me back in the day. We're finishing up.

Before I get rolling, I was just going to say I saw Dino put the tape on. If you can't fix it with duct tape, it don't need to be fixed, right? That's pretty cool, man.

That That's my That's my way of fixing up things. Just duct tape it. It'll work.

Um before I get rolling, I I just want to say thanks to everybody here. Um because I know I'll get ramped up and it'll be 8 o'clock and I'll have to end on a end quickly. So, I'll say it now before I before it gets to be or 9:00.

Um, thanks for everybody for having me and you guys, you know, I've told Dino, I've told a bunch of you and talking before and after the meeting. I mean, you guys are a pleasure to talk to you guys. I mean, the lights are on, you know, and it's like it's actually a friendly environment, you know.

It's nice. Some of these things it's almost like a hostile environment, you know. Sometimes I'm thinking, am I speaking in English?

You know, you know, you ain't making that connection, you know. Last night at a treatment center in Dallas, I God, I wanted to pat a couple of these. It was a rough crowd in there.

They kind of comes and goes, you know, and and the week before, the weeks previous, these guys were all on fire and they're getting fired up and they're hearing the solution and they're God, they're jazzed up and a lot of those guys had left. They had a whole bunch of new guys last night and man, I just if I had some change on me, I would have them some change and say, "Shit, call your next to Ken, man. you're done, man.

Put put those knuckleheads in your prayers, you know. So, we're going to end up 10, 11, and 12 tonight. So, I'll just get I'm going to get right into the book.

And, you know, forgive me. You know, I my sponsor told me early on when I first got my first guy to sponsor. I had like 27 days of sobriety and he asked me that this kid asked me to sponsor him and and I called my sponsor and told him that information and he said, "Well, you didn't tell him no, did you?

I said, 'Well, no. I said, 'I haven't even got a 30-day chip yet.' He says, 'Well, you're a good reader. Read the damn book.

You can't screw it up. So, that's why they wrote the book to give us instructions, you know. So, I'm going to start off on step 10.

And we left off, you know, obviously at nine last week, and they gave us the ninestep promises. And and I like to read this stuff on 10, and I'll make some commentary as we go along, cuz this is huge. I I love this stuff.

and the promises. I mean, I know we got the little lampshades of AA groups all over the place and you know, y'all got them up on the wall and it's got the promises, right? And that's great stuff.

All right, but depending on how you count in the first 164 pages of the big book, there's like 300 and something promises, right? And and so I don't want to just leave it to the ninth step promises. Those are great promises sign, you know, signifying we've had a spiritual experience.

But here in step 10, there's some promises that you can bet your life on. And and you know, I spent a lot of years reading this book, not understanding it, and not understanding that this is what's going to happen if I follow these directions. So, let's just get right into it.

Says, "This thought brings us to step 10, which suggests that we continue to take personal inventory and continue to set right any new mistakes as we go along." Right? So, they're not giving us any new information here. We already know how to take care of inventory, right?

We did it when we took a fourep. We know how to um set right or wrong because we we've we've learned how to do that, right? So, it's not new information they're throwing at us here.

And it says it tells us when we start our 10step. It says we vigorously commence this way of living as we cleaned up the past. Right now, I got some friends and another faction of AA that are will swear up and down that the big book says that you can't have a spiritual experience till you make all your amends and you can't start step 10 till you make all your amends.

And that's just not true. That's not what the big book says. The big book says as soon as I start my nine step, I must start on step 10.

Why? Cuz I now I'm living I'm living today, right here, right now. And I can't afford to let resentments and fears and all that stuff pile up again on me.

Right? So, this is what we're going to do in step 10. And it says, and we do this vigorously.

Not a look, I'm in a room full of vigorous drinkers back in the day, right? There ain't no tea totlers in this room. When we drank, we drank vigorously.

So, we know what that word is, right? And so, it says we vigorously commence this way of living as we cleaned up the past. It says we've entered the world of the spirit.

Our next function is to grow in understanding and effectiveness. Look, I'm just not going to all of a sudden be understanding and effective. You know, I mean, it's just not going to happen.

We're going to grow. And it says this is not an overnight matter. How long do you do your fifth step or 10th step?

It says it should continue for a lifetime for so from from that day way back when till the day I die hopefully I do a 10th step right throughout the day. And I know there's some misconception the last the last discussion I'm meeting like I've been to three discussion meetings since I've been sober, right? Three.

I was out of town all three times. The third time was about four years ago. I was in Tulsa and they were doing a a big book study, right?

Our step study and it was on step 10 and it was out of the 12 and 12 and not only did I not hear anything about the 10 step, it just the way it was crazy talk, you know, it's not in this book, right? So, we'll we'll we'll break it down. It tells you it continues for a lifetime, right?

Then it's going to tell us what to watch out for. Continue to watch out for selfishness, dishonesty, resentment, and fear. So, we know how to do that.

We've all done a fourep, right? No new information. And then I love this.

When these crop up, not if, perhaps they'll crop up. No, they're going to crop up. Man, we're just we're humans.

This that's life. Resentments crop up. Fears crop up.

When they crop up now, they're going to give us precise instructions on what to do, right? So, we ask God at once to remove it, right? We say a prayer, discuss them with someone immediately.

Right? This is where I pick up the phone and call my sponsor. My sponsor is unavailable.

I call one of my buddies that's in the program that's on the same path and I run it by them. Right? Make amends quickly if we've harmed anyone.

Right? If I if I if I offend Jorge, call Jorge a bad name because we got into an argument and I owe him an amends, I make amends that day or as quickly as possible. All right?

Then we resolutely turn our thoughts to someone we can help. Now, maybe that's somebody in AA. That's fine.

But my sponsor tells me that means wherever I'm at, maybe I'm at work, there's nobody in AA at my work, right? You know, so I can help, right? So it tells me exactly what to do.

Ask God at once to remove them. Right? Discuss it with someone immediately.

Make amends quickly. Turn our thoughts to who we can help. That's a 10step.

How do I do it? Throughout the day. Simple, right?

I leave the house in the morning, 10:00, somebody hacks me off and I say some words that I shouldn't say to another human being. You know, I I'll give you an example. I wasn't sober very long and there's this guy that I work with.

He was a director in the company. He's a He's a knucklehead. All right.

And we, you know, we delivered high dollar antiques. I installed artwork and all the fancy schman's houses in Dallas. That's all we did, you know, back in the day.

And um we had a whole load going to South Texas. And I'm packing this truck and can't break it. I mean, they were, you know, $50,000 armwis and stuff.

You can't break them. You know, you can't damage them. At the very last minute, this guy throws a monkey wrench into the program and says, "Hey, we need to get this ammo on and it needs to come off in Waco on your way down there.

The lady's waiting." And I'm like, "It's not going to happen." Cuz I already had my instructions from the owner of the company. He says, "It's got to h you know." So anyway, we go back and forth, right? I feel I'm right.

He feels he's right. He throws a little hissy fit, you know, and um I'm working with guys in the design district, so you can I'll let your imagine take you there. So, he throws a little hissy fit.

He says some words that aren't too kind to me, and instead of me pausing, which I learned in the 11st step, I immediately retaliated, protected my turf, and told him what he could do with his idea. And I vaguely sensed I was not being any too smart, you know, as he walked away. And I'm walking away and I feel right and I'm mad now.

Now I'm all worked up and stuff. And as I'm walking away, I realize, god dang, I should not have said that to him. And my mind says, "Blow it off.

Screw him." You know, that's what that's what my genius says. You know, but I'm thinking, "No, no. I I need to call the old man on this one." And so I called him and I I let I let him have it.

And he started laughing at me like he always does. And he says, "You think that's the way he should be treated?" And I said, "Nope." And I said, "But I don't need to go make an amends to him, do I?" He's like, "You know, you owe him an amends." He said, "Go pray about it. Go ask God to help you.

Go take care of this immediately." So I went the little time out in the bathroom, went to this guy's office. Now, I mean, I was hacked off when I told him. him.

And I mean, I I guess when I look angry, I look intimidating or something cuz I walked into I knocked on his office door and I walked in and I I thought he was going to duck under his desk, you know, and I proceeded to, you know, make my amends. Hey, David, I'm sorry we had cross words, you know. I had no right to to say the things that I did to you, you know.

I mean, after all, you are a director in the company and I shouldn't have talked to you that way. Is there anything I can do to make that right with you? And this guy changed.

I mean, he started crying. But then he started to tell me, you know, I shouldn't have, you know, he had since called my boss and realized that he was in the wrong and all this stuff and it was all patched up. Now, left to my own devices, I never would have done that.

I would have blown it off. I would have been right. He would have been wrong.

And that's the way it would have been, and we would have had a horrible working relationship. Instead, I trusted God. Took the actions outlined in here.

Right? See, ever since the third step, my actions today show God I'm willing, how willing I am not to pick up a drink. See, I can rationalize this 10step stuff.

I can say, "Oh, yeah. I can say a prayer, and I already know what my sponsor is going to say." God wants to see me in action. I say the prayer, pick up the phone, take care of it.

That shows God my willingness, right? Anything else is not a tense step. That's a John Kelly step.

And that gets me drunk eventually. You know, probably one of the biggest butt chewings I've ever got in these six and a half years is this stuff right here. I think I told it la last week or the week before, but I'll I'll kind of refresh your memory.

You know, I was go I wanted to go out of town to see my sister's kids. You know, when they come up to my mom's house, you know, I got to see them. You know, my little nieces, they they adore me and I adore them.

And it's just great. And I finagled my schedule at work and got got off that Friday so I could spend the whole weekend. Had no business taking off that week, you know, that week, you know, that or that day.

And had, you know, all this pressure from work. I had to get some deals closed. They weren't closing.

Just pressure, pressure, pressure, pressure. And I went out of town doing it my way. Get up there.

Her kids are sick. They're cranky. I'm not feeling that great.

I'm cranky. You know, finally by Saturday I'm like, you know, mom, I got to go. I got to go back to Dallas.

Not once did I call my sponsor Friday. Not once did I call him Saturday. It wasn't until Sunday night coming home from 24-hour club that I finally called my sponsor and then told him the litany of stuff that was going on.

And he let me get it all out. And then he just we're on the phone. So he we if he were in person, he just kind of looked at me like my head was on fire, you know.

And he says, "Who in the hell do you think you are? Like you're some normal guy? Like you could just let problems of like money and relationships, you could just let all those things just pile up, right?

And just deal with No. He said, "You're not a normal person. You're an alcoholic.

You're a chronic alcoholic. Your job is to do this 10step stuff. You should have called me on Friday, you know, and said you waited 48 hours." He goes, "Guy, that stuff like this gets you and me drunk." And I don't know, I wasn't, you know, sober maybe in my first year of sobriety.

And I bet 98% of the days since then is the day I call my sponsor, you know, and I don't call him for every freaking hangail and stuff like that. But I'm in I'm accustomed to calling my sponsor. Lots of times it's just to check in on him because his wife is ill and they're getting on up in age and but the point is I'm in the habit of talking to my sponsor and when resentments, fears, worries come up, he's the first person I call and I lay it out to him.

God sees me in action and I take care of it to the best of my ability. Says, "Love and tolerance of others is our code." Now, here's all these promises. Check this out.

And we've ceased fighting anything or anyone, even alcohol. For this time, sanity will have returned. We'll seldom be interested in liquor.

If tempted, we recoil from it as our hot from it as it were a hot flame. We react sely and normally, and we'll find that this has happened automatically. I'm not even thinking about it.

You know, it just happens. We'll see that our new attitude toward liquor has been given us without any thought or effort on our part. It just comes.

Now I think back to all the other times, all those other 37 desire chips, all those other brief periods of sobriety that I had in the decade of the 90s. That never happened. It was always effort on my part.

It was like wake up and the first thing I would think of is how in the hell am I going to get through this day without drinking and me trying to manage myself not drinking until that finally blows up in my face and I drink again. Says there's no effort on our part. It just comes.

That is the miracle of it. We're not fighting it. Neither are we avoiding temptation.

We're not fighting it. How long have we tried to fight it? If you're like me, I tried to fight it for years and I always lose.

What? Avoiding temptation. I think in in treatment centers they call that making you a trigger list, right?

You got to change your they tell you to change your playmates, play things, play, you know, where am I not going to go or where am I going to go where I'm not going to think about it? Left to my own device. I mean, remember Fred's story.

What happened to Fred? He walked through a doorway. Now, how are you going to go through life?

How am I going to go through life if I can't if I got to think? Because Fred said he was on guard. His business had come off.

Well, it was the end of a perfect day. Not a cloud on the horizon. And he walked through.

He says he crossed the threshold to the dining room. That's a doorway. How do you like to put doorways on your trigger list?

How'd you like to put waking up? You know, that was always the first thing on my mind. I mean, where am I going to go?

You know, it says it says, you know, we we could be on the Greenland ice cap and would, you know, be tempted by, you know, I told you when I moved to Puerto Rico, I knew one person when I got off the plane. By the end of a week, I was like the mayor of old San Juan. I knew every shady character there was, man.

You know, I can find it, you know, given my, you know, says we're not even going to have to deal with that. It says we feel as though we've been placed in a position of neutrality, safe and protected. We've not even sworn off.

Instead, the problem has been removed. It does not exist for us. We're neither cocky nor we afraid.

That is our experience. That is how we react so long as we keep in fit spiritual condition through work and self-sacrifice for others. That's it.

That's promises. Now, you think about it. If you go back to page 63 when we're at the turning point or, you know, 59, we're getting ready to take the steps.

I mean, I always do it. From 63, third step prayer, page 63, I just read the bottom of page 84,85. I go from a hopeless state of mind and body to here in a matter of days.

If you're freaking struggling in Alcoholics Anonymous, if you're strugg I mean, the one of the loneliest places I've ever been on this planet is to be an AA and not have a solution. That sucks. I can't live that way.

Right? So, this is 21 pages of work. You just got to ask yourself the question, is your life worth 21 pages of work?

Y'all read comic books bigger than that, right? It's pretty simple. It's not a long drawn out process.

They say it early in the book in Bill's story. It says, "Simple but not easy." Right? And then it says, "A price must be paid." And you got to ask yourself the question, what price did you pay to get here?

Some of us it was pretty steep. Most of us it was pretty steep. Damn near cost me everything I had and then some and a lot of your stuff.

You know, you can talk to my sainted mother about how much it cost me to get here. You know, they're paying $30,000 $40,000 for a big book. You know, send me to treatment.

So, that's what happens if we follow these instructions, right? The very next paragraph tells you what happens if you don't follow these instructions. It is easy to let up on the spiritual program of action and rest on our laurels.

Laurels, Greek for rear end. You know, see, it's real easy. Later on, later in a couple pages we're going to read, it says we let God discipline this in the way we've just outlined us, right?

How does it God do that? By these steps, by these principles, right? If we're trying to adhere to these principles, we get discipline, right?

If I'm not adhering to these principles, I get sober and I get some clean time under me and my life starts to change and I get the job and my car's running again and you know, maybe I got a little sweetie pie and everything's rosy and everything like that. If I'm not following these principles, you know what happens to me, right? Pretty soon, it's not what God has done, it's look at me, look what I'm doing.

Oh, I've done this for so long. Maybe, you know, I need to take the night off and go to a Mavericks game and and maybe I don't drink that night and I do it again the next time and then the next time, you know, because I'm doing good, right? I'm doing good.

Y'all are all telling me I'm doing good. My family's re reunited and everybody's everything's doing good. No, I can't rest on what happened I've done in the past.

I have today. My job is today is to stay close to God, perform his work well today, no matter what. Right?

Other than that, I would be resting on my laurels. Says, "We're headed for trouble if we do, for alcohol is a subtle foe." What do how do they describe it? They call it cunning, baffling, powerful alcohol.

Lying in wait to ensnare, you know, just waiting, lurking, waiting for me to slip up. Ain't that how it always happens? You know, like they say, these old-timers say, you ordered your drink long before you had your your next drink, right?

Yeah. because I started resting on my laurels thinking look what I'm done look what I'm doing. Yeah, I ordered that drink a long time before I picked it up.

You know, says what we really have is a daily reprieve conting contingent upon the maintenance of our spiritual condition. And look what it says. Every day is a day when we must carry the vision of God's will into all of our activities.

Every day. Not just on meeting day. It's easy to be a spiritual giant in AA and come to a meeting and think of something snappy to say and everybody patch you on the behind, but it's how we react in the real world.

You know, we got to carry this vision into all of our activities. And that's a promise in the 12th step. Says these these are thoughts which must go with us constantly.

Constantly. We can exercise our willpower along this line all we wish. It is the proper use of will.

I'll go ahead and read this last last little bit. It says, "Much has already been said about receiving strength, inspiration, and direction from him who has all knowledge and power. If we have carefully followed directions, we have begun to sense the flow of his spirit into us." Now, this ain't in the big book, but I call this the God groove.

You know, I'm getting up and I'm saying my prayers in the morning. I'm asking God to direct my thinking. I'm out there.

I'm out there helping other drunks. I'm being a a contributor at my work. I'm being a contributor in my relationship, right?

I'm doing these little things, right? And life just kind of clicks by. I'm kind of in that groove, you know?

You know, the the other way only way I can describe it other than that is is like I remember I remember Michael Jordan, I think it was the last year he played and um because I remember the shot he was they were in the playoff game in uh the NBA, the East Finals. They're playing Indiana, right? And Mike has an insane night.

He's Reggie Miller's guarding him all night. And Mike is hitting three after three after three. And there's that one shot.

Reggie, the clock is winding down. Reggie Miller's in his face. Mike's way behind the three-point line.

Turns, shoots, and it is nothing but net. And the picture of Mike is this. I don't know.

He's in the groove, man. See, that's how my life goes when I'm plugged in, you know? If I start fighting it, if I'm start getting frustrated and I'm getting fearful and I'm getting resentful and all that stuff, it's a sure signal that I ain't in God's will.

I start having tr Look, I I was talking to one of the guys before the meeting. He asked me what I do. I've been trading futures options on my own for the past couple years.

I taught myself with my own money. It's an expensive business proposition, right? I taught myself.

Sometimes I'd get frustrated. My sponsor thinks my head's on fire for doing it in the first place, right? I get frustrated.

I call my sponsor. This sucks amount of money. I gotta make a whole pile of money in this week, you know, to to to, you know, get what I need.

And um he says, "Look, you ain't in God's will, man. If God wanted you to be successful at this, it would happen." He goes, "I'm not telling you not to do it. I'm just telling you that right now may not be the time." And I didn't like that.

And I fought that for a while until I got to the position I was like, "You know what? I'm going to let it go. You know, I consulted with the hedge fund for a while.

I got some other opportunities lined up. Maybe it'll happen. I don't know.

I ain't fighting it. You know, there's a whole ton of opportunities out there, but there's only one of me. You know, I know normal people, they they have all those books.

It says, "Keep trying. Keep trying. Don't give up.

Don't give up. Don't give up." My sponsor tells me that's not for alcoholics. Now, he's not saying that I should just give up at the first sign of trouble.

That's no way to live either. But if I'm doing my best and an opportunity doesn't work out, that might be the sign that it ain't for me, that I'm not in this flow. Right?

Then it says step 11 suggests prayer and meditation. Now, you got to think about Bill writes this and you remember how he felt going into like Eby's meeting at his kitchen table at the end of November 1934. Bill didn't have too high opinion on God.

He'd seen people gas to death in World War I. People jump from the towers of high finance during the stock market crash. He was a drunken bum stealing money from his wife.

You know, he didn't have a high opinion on God. But look what he writes in here. He tells us how to meditate.

He tells us how we do this. And they give us specific instructions. My sponsor had me reading this like every day for the first month I was sober.

He didn't want me to memorize it. He just wanted me to understand it and we would talk about it so that this stuff this little template, this little concept here could be imprinted on my brain, right? I do I don't do this right now.

I do it I mean I I do it but I don't do it right out of the book like I did when I got started. Right? I've learned I've developed my own way.

This is what Bill look if prayer and meditation we all know what that prayer is me talking meditation is me listening if you want to get you know some yoga tapes and some incense and some bubble bath and do your med fine right but Bill's going to give us some stuff this is 11th step and it says when we retire at night we constructively review our day notice that word constructively all right so my 11th step is a basically the catchall for my 10th step and I'm going to constru constructively review my day. I'm not going to kick myself in the rear end about I should have this, you're a loser, you didn't. No, they're saying constructively, right?

Were we good questions to ask ourselves at the end of the day? Were we resentful, selfish, dishonest, afraid? Do we owe an apology?

Have we kept something to ourselves which should be discussed with someone or another person at once? So, they're asking me, have I done a good job on my 10th step? Is there something that I need to call my sponsor on?

All right. Were we kind and loving toward all? That that's a lofty goal right there.

Like my sponsor said one time, he goes, "I love each and one of you members of my group. There's some of you I don't like very well, though." You know, that's a that's a tough one. You know, traffic, traffic in Dallas some days that make Mother Teresa curse, I think, sometimes.

Here's another one. Were we thinking of ourselves most of the time? Now, there's a tough one.

I always I'm always thinking of me. I don't know. Look, I know y'all are all spiritual giants in here, but what was the first thing you thought of this morning?

The first thing I thought of this morning was like, I got to pee. I'm cold was something. It was about me.

You know, I wasn't thinking of you. I wasn't thinking of you. Or here's the flip side is or were we thinking of what we could do for others?

Now, there's another lofty goal. How am I am I helping you? What can I do for you?

What can I do for this person to make their life better? What can I do for this person to help them out? of what we could pack into the stream of life.

Now, think back while you were still drinking before you came in this time. How much were you packing into the stream of life? I was packing zero into the stream of life.

I was drinking to live and drinking was killing me. I was life was blowing by. I was not doing anything for you.

I was not doing anything to help me. I was. It was a blur.

Now they're saying, "What am I doing? What am I What am I packing into the stream of life?" It's pretty cool stuff. Then it says, "But we must be careful not to drift into worry, remorse, morbid reflection." Don't worry about that stuff, right?

After making our review, we here's the first prayer. We ask God's forgiveness and inquire what corrective measures should be taken. So, here's a good chance to catch up something I didn't I missed in my 10th step.

Then it gives us instructions for in the morning on awakening, right? Then it ask tells us we consider our plans for the day. Oh, I got big plans.

How many of you had big plans and then you get the call from one of your proteges? My fist's done. Damn, I had big plans today.

You know, it's day after Christmas, my first year, 1999. The phone rings. We're all having breakfast at my mom's house.

Phone rings. It's for me. There's a guy at Homer Bound is getting out the following day.

Fifth step is done. Our fourth step is done. It's Christmas.

I'm with my family. My little My mom's like, "Who's that?" And I said, "Oh, it's one of my guys for my He's finished his fourth step." She said, "Shouldn't you go?" I'm like, "Dude, I'll be there like an hour and a half." You know, you know, I consider my plans for the day. hauled ass to Dallas from Gainesville.

Did a heard a fistep, hauled ass back to Gainesville. It was a great day, right? Here's his next prayer.

We ask God to direct our thinking, especially that it be divorced from self-pity, dishonest, or self-seeking motives, right? A lot of, you know, I tell my sponsor all the time, "Sponsor, I got a lot of good ideas." And he says, "I'm sure you do, John Kelly, but I hadn't heard any yet." You know, when I get a good idea, I run it by my sponsor. You know, a lot of times my bright ideas sound really good to me, but when I run it by him, he's like, "Well, god dang, that's incredibly selfish." You know, that's incredibly dishonest.

Whatever. All right. Under these conditions, we can employ our mental faculties with all with assurance.

For after all, God gave us brains to use. And my sponsor said, "Scratch that out. That don't apply to you." I'm honest.

I didn't just hear that from another speaker. He told me that, you know, and it says our thought life will be placed on a much higher plane. All right?

If when our thinking is cleared of wrong motives. Now, here's some cool stuff. In thinking about our day, we may face indecision.

We may not be able to determine which course to take. So, I'm still in the morning. I'm considering my plans for the day, right?

I may have something looming in the day that's causing me discomfort. Maybe it's a job interview. Maybe I got to go before the court.

Whatever it is right here, we ask God for inspiration. Another prayer, an intuitive thought or decision. We relax and take it easy.

Notice where that's at. In the morning, in the 11th step, where we relax and take it easy. We don't struggle.

We're often surprised how the right answers will come after we have tried this for a while. So, I got to practice. You know, I may face in some indecision.

I relax, take it easy. Later on down on the page on 87, as we go through the day, we pause when agitated. It's a one of the best fiveletter words out there.

Pause. How do I react when something don't go my way? I get in your face, right?

Pause can definitely shorten your tent step. I found you pause at the right moment for a long enough time and you ask God for the right thought or the right We pause. All right.

Keeps me from doing a 10step all day long with my father. Just let's just keep the line open. I'm out in the I'm out in the real world.

You know, when agitated, doubtful. We ask for the right thought or action. We constantly remind ourselves that we are no longer running the show humbly saying to ourselves many times each day, "Thy will be done." You know, I'm like a little aa robot sometimes.

Thy will be done. Thy will be done. You know, sometimes I don't even mean it.

You know, look, I like this, too. Says, "We're then in much less danger of excitement, fear, anger, worry, self-pity, or foolish decisions." And I had to think about that when I first got sober. I I kind of backtracked to thinking how I was living before I got sober.

And it was all that stuff right there. excitement, fear, anger, worry, self-pity, foolish decisions over and over relentlessly. And I, you know, I kind of thought back to one of those days and it was always a struggle to kind of hide my drinking from you so you couldn't, you know, worried if I, you know, if I'm standing in line at Tom Thumb, do am I just wreaking booze to the little kids behind, you know what I'm saying?

Worry, remorse, morbid reflection. And I just would think about that. I'm thinking, "Good God, that's why I was so tired.

I was so defeated." Don't got to do that anymore. We're not We're not that way anymore. It says, "We become much more efficient.

We do not tire so easily for we're not burning up energy as foolish foolishly as we did when we were trying to arrange life to suit ourselves." Here's a short paragraph and a really profound one. It works. It really does.

Got to try it. Got to try it. We got to ha ask God for some some persistence, you know, and try this for a while, you know.

I'm not one of these guys that, you know, I got to be at work at 8:00 in the morning, so I get up at 5 and got 47 meditation guides. Uh, that's not me. I got some stuff that I read.

I got some prayers that I say. But more importantly, I just like to give God thanks. Thank you for letting me wake up this morning without a bottle of vodka next to my head.

That's a freaking miracle because that's the way I live left to my own devices. I give God thanks. You know, I let him know how grateful I am that I have people like you in my life and my family back and I just ask God to take away whatever stands in the way of my usefulness to him and to you and I start my day.

You know, sometimes I screw up and oversleep and rush out the door. You know, usually my my my day spirals out of control in a hurry. You know, got to do one of those timeouts.

Go to the little bathroom at work or wherever it is in your car is good. You can do some good meditating in your car. Do some good meditating.

You know, it's just practice. You know, we've been given a new chance and a new opportunity at life. So, it's my job to practice these principles.

Here's another miracle of understatement. We alcoholics are undisiplined. You betcha.

So, look what it says. So, we let God discipline us in the simple way we have just outlined. If I'd get up tomorrow and try my best to follow these principles and call my sponsor and say the prayers and try to help you and and be a part of society and try to pack what I can into the stream of life, that requires discipline.

Me just running the show requires no discipline at all. I just do here. If I follow these instructions, there's discipline.

It says, "But that is not all. There's action and more action. Faith without works is dead." Like I said a couple weeks ago, I can pray myself to the liquor store.

I can pray. You know, you you've heard about the people sitting on the banks of the Mississippi River, right? And the it's flood season.

And the sheriff comes by in his four-wheel, right? And they're sitting out on the porch, the old couple. He says, "Y'all need to evacuate.

We got the floods are coming." No, no. We're praying God will take care of us. and he says, "Y'all need to evacuate." And they said, ' God will take care of us.

We do, you know, we follow the book, you know, sheriff drives on to help other people. Flood waters rise. Now they're on the pitch of the roof, you know, and or now they're up on the porch and he comes by and now he's in a boat, you know, and he says, "Hop on the boat.

Flood riders are rising." He says, "No, no, no. We're praying. God will take care of us." He goes on down the river.

Next time he comes by, he's in a helicopter. They're on the pitch of the roof. They won't get on the helicopter cuz God's going to take care of them.

They're praying. Well, hell, the silly folks drowned and they're at the pearly gates and they're kind of ticked off that they died. And they go to St.

Peter and says, "We've been praying. We were praying. Why did we die?" And he says, "My God, I sent you a four-wheel drive, a boat, and a helicopter.

Take some action." You know, you got to take some action. You know, it's all about action, folks. And that's what this right here, chapter 7, working with others.

They got a whole chapter devoted to the 12th step. Sounds like it's probably important, right? I'm so grateful for my sponsor because he didn't care what my little feelings were.

He didn't care if I thought I was shy. He didn't care. I said I was willing to go to any length to get what he got.

And he put me in the game. He got me off the bench, off the back row, and gave me stuff to do, stuff to read in a in a pro and he gave me the instructions for an a program of living that has changed my life. And I thank him for that every day, you know, cuz without him, you know, I'll sit on the back row every time, you know, and become a AA guru and I'll die drunk.

says, "Practical experience shows that nothing will so much ensure immunity as drinking from drinking as intensive work with other alcoholics. Just like we drink vigorously, I drink intensively." And this says intensive work with other alcoholics. But let's just see in the big book in the textbook where they first mention it.

And I know one right off the bat, it's not even in the real number pages. It's on Roman numeral 16. The very very bottom it says this seems to prove that one alcoholic could affect another is no non-alcoholic could.

It indicated that strenuous work one alcoholic with another was vital necessary for life for b vital for to permanent recovery. Hadn't even got to the real pages and they tell us what our mission is. going to Bill's story, you know, page 14.

For if an alcoholic fails to perfect and enlarge um his spiritual life through work and self-sacrifice for others, he could not survive the certain trials and low spots ahead. If he did not work, he would surely drink. If he drank, he would surely die with us.

It's just like that. Bill, by the way, Bill enters the hospital December the 11th, 1934. Gets out December the 17th, 1934.

And this is what he thought of. My wife and I abandoned ourselves with enthusiasm to the idea of helping other alcoholics to a solution of their problems. I didn't have an experience like that in my last time in treatment.

Bill did. That's why we're here. I'll come back to that page.

And it says it works in back in chapter 7. It says it works when other activities fail. I'm going to try other activities.

You know, Bill tried. I mean, I can imagine Bill 1934, he gets out of town's hospital. He starts to get a little resentment or fearful or depressed or whatever.

And Bill's like jogging around Central Park, you know, doing push-ups, maybe goes to a movie, you know? He's got to go down the Bery and work with a drunk. It saves the day, right?

That's what happened to Bill. That's what he did, right? That's what happens in my life.

I'll try anything. I'll go buy some new Nikes. I'll do this.

I'll do that. I realized, you know what? I need to I need to be out where I need I need to be out amongst my people.

You know, this is it says we've recovered and been given the power to help others. Page 132. Be pretty sorry, don't you think, for me to get recovered to look up into to the God of my understanding and say, "Hey, thanks, pal.

I got it from here. Turn my back on you." I don't know if you believe in karma, but that's some bad karma right there. It says, "This is our 12th suggestion.

Carry this message." Notice what message they're talking about. They're talking about this message as outlined in this book. Not my message.

Not some frigin Dr. Phil message. Not some therapeutic message.

Not some inner child message. They're talking about this message. The message that they went to such masterfully detail to get in this book so we could have instructions.

carry this message to other alcoholics. You can help when no one else could. Who could help you?

Who could help me? No one except another alcoholic. As soon when I was in treatment or in counseling, as soon as I found out that they didn't do what I did to get booze, my mind snapped shut.

Whether that's right or wrong doesn't make a difference. As soon as I realized they weren't an alcoholic, the circle the the wagons were circled so tight around my life. You know, if you weren't me, you didn't know about me.

But who who who cracked the nut was my sponsor. He'd been where I was at. He'd been recovered and been given the power to help me.

He'd been where I'm at. I was at. And now he was at a place where I wanted to get to.

You know, it's pretty cool. It says life will take on new meaning. For me, life will take on a meaning.

I got I had a per my you know we call the my group is the primary purpose group right and I found my special purpose kind of like Steve Martin you know I found my special purpose you know you got to go way back in movie history to catch that one but look what it says to watch people recover to see them help others to watch loneliness vanish to see a fellowship grow up about you to have a host of friends this is an experience you must not miss we know you will not want to miss probably the coolest things is is this stuff right here. Hey, I did have a meaning in life. I got a purpose now.

I was designed for the reason to do all those knucklehead things for all those years and to break all those hearts and create all that damage to get me to a spot to where I could rely on this power. And now that I'm relying on the power, now I can go out to this guy or that guy or that guy. And these guys jump on board, right?

And now little by slowly the fellowship that I crave develops around me. They're not talking about the fellowship. the fellowship, you know, see a lot of damage in that other fellowship.

A lot of gossiping, a lot of negative energy, a lot of stuff. What they're talking about is, you know, you look back at the history of AA, man, these these cats stuck together. They had a common problem.

They had a common solution, and they stuck together, and they were wildly successful. And we're not doing that as a whole today. One of the coolest I mean I got my first guy to sponsor right off the bat.

That one became another one. Another one, another one. Right.

I'm constantly every day going through this book with a newcomer. You know, that's how I learned the damn book practice. And as we study the the book in my group and as I'm studying it with my newcomer guys, my little prospects be turning into proteges, these promises that are so neatly written this book, these are becoming apparent that they're happening or have happened in my life.

And to see those little buckaroos, they grow and those promises come into their life. That's what they're talking about. That's the experience you must not miss.

There's this guy out. His name is Ben. Why they let ever let Ben out of prison, I do not know.

Ben was a angry angry angry angry guy. Hated you. Hated people.

I met him in 96 at this little treatment center. We tried to get sober together, you know, at that treatment center and we So, here I am in 99 or year 2000 and I run into old Ben again. Ben sits in the back row, arms crossed, not a ray of hope in his life, you know, and he hears us talking at this little treatment center week on week out, you know, and finally after a couple of weeks, Ben comes up to me and asks me to take him through the work.

And Ben was a slow project. Ben don't comprehend what he reads too well. So I basically had to sit down with Ben and take him through line by line in this book.

And Ben started to work these steps. And Ben did a fourth step. And Ben did a fistep and I hammered him and during that fistep the little the little light bulb came on, you know, and Ben starts to change and I'd make Ben would I he didn't have a car at the time and for a few weeks and I'd take Ben to our meetings and I'd stand out there with Ben every day and we'd get there like 6:30 and we'd talk to every son of a gun that walked into our meeting.

Ben, John, I hate talking to these people. Good. Introduce yourself to every one of them, man.

And we tried this, right? And little by slowly, Ben starts to change. Ben starts to change.

These promises are coming in his life. For the first time in his life, he's got hope. And that's kind of amazing, right, in and of itself.

But I'm sitting there on a Friday night. We just got through doing our talk. I've been given Ben a ride to this treatment center and me and Myers do our little thing and and all this stuff.

And we're talking after the meeting. guys are huddle up in twos and threes and passing out numbers and stuff. Mars is talking to me about something and I look over and Mars is facing me and I look over and I see Ben.

Ben, the guy who doesn't like people, the guy who doesn't he left to his own devices, he'd kill us all, you know. And I'm not joking. But I see this guy getting out some paper and writing his number down and he has some little red books and he's giving out these red books and I start to cry and Myers goes, "What are you crying for?" And I'm like, "Check it out." And Myers turns around and looks and he's like, "Oh my God." See, that's what God does.

You know, God's got a plan. You know, I don't look at these guys. I mean, I I end up sponsoring the guys I sponsor are just like me, bottom of the barrel, end of the liners.

Most of my guys come to me on on crutches, you know, or wobbling, you know, barely detoxed. The book here outlines what we're supposed to do, how we're supposed to do it. It tells me precisely how I lay out this program.

I don't go to a new guy and say, "Look what God's doing for me. Let me tell you about my spiritual experience." That's what Bill did in the beginning. Remember, if you read the history on it, Bill got sober and he'd go down to the Bowery and work with all these drunks and he'd tell them about his hot flash experiment experience in town's hospital.

Now, how were you when you were drunk or hung over and people started talking to you about God? If you were like me, your mind snapped shut. Theirs did.

Nobody was getting sober. Bill comes home frustrated one night and says, "God dang, Lois, he was frustrated." She says, "Why are you frustrated?" She says, "Look, I'm out there trying to help these guys. Nobody wants it." And she's like, "Hello, you're sober.

You know, why don't you go talk to Silkworth?" And he goes to Silkworth and he asks, he says, "None of these guys are staying sober." And Silkworth says, "What are you telling them?" Tell them about my experience here in town's hospital. He says, "Bill, you got the cart before the horse. You got to lay out the hopelessness of the situation.

Give them a good case of alcoholism. See, that's what we do with the newcomer. I sit down with a new guy.

The guy expressed some interest. I sit down. I find out all I can about him.

It ain't my job to pat him on the behind and tell him, "I'm going to love you in his sobriety. You just keep coming back." Buckaroo doesn't say that in this book. It tells me I lay out the problem as I see it.

I stress the hopelessness of the situation. I tell them about my story. This is where my 12step or my my war stories come into play.

I tell him about the times that I've tried to stop and failed. He begins to match some of his inconsistencies with mine, right? He's identifying with me.

And finally, before long, he realizes that I drank as much booze or more than he ever dreamed of. And finally, this guy with a good case alcoholism looks me dead in the eye and says, "You're just like me. How in the hell do you stay sober?" Now I got them.

Now I get to lay out the program of action outlined in this book. This man says he's willing to go to any length to get what I got. We make a decision.

We make a commitment in step three, right? That he's going to get off his rear end and do this work. And then I take him through the work.

Simple. That's our job. But not only is that my job, it says in the 12th step that I got these principles in all my affairs.

You know, I can't be the guy that goes, you know, I cussed out my girlfriend today, kicked the dog, yelled at my boss, but I didn't drink today, and I'm a complete success. No, I'm a sober prick. You know, it says I got to practice these principles in all my affairs.

So, that means at work with people I don't even know. I mean, think about this. We've all I'm running out of time.

I'll end on this and then I'm going to read another promise. But think about your forep. Think of the people, how many people you had on your forep, right?

And I don't know what the last census was, but let's say the United States has 300 million people, right? And they estimate that 10% of the population is alcoholic. Well, if 10% of the population is alcoholic and we all do four steps, right?

You look at all of our four steps, right? way more than 300 million. You you follow my drift?

That means our lives as alcoholics touch everybody in the society. Everyone. There ain't You could go to the mall tomorrow and walk up to 100 people and there ain't you won't find one that that life has not been altered by alcoholism.

They're either married to one of us, they got a kid, they got a grandfather, somebody was killed by a drunk driver, they've had to fire drunks. Alcoholism touches everybody on this planet. So, it's our job.

It's my job to practice these principles to the best of my abilities and all my affairs, you know. That's what the steps allow us to do, you know. And God allows us to repair that damage.

God allows us to have a life and to become whole in our societies again. We can contribute instead of sucking everything we can out of out of life. You know, now we got a purpose.

I got a purpose. But I'm going to end on this. Look what it says on page 100.

Both you and the new man must walk day by day in the path of spiritual progress. And I'll tell you where I found this. I wasn't sober too long.

Is on a Sunday. I got up that day. I mowed the lawn at the house that I was living in.

I mowed the lawn. I washed my little beat down car that I had. Cleaned it all out.

I went up to Homerbound. Did step work with two or three guys. Right.

Got home. I called my mom. the Cowboys had lost, you know, so I was like, "Oh, they they suck." You know, painted my kitchen, right?

And it's all by six o'clock in the evening, right? And I'm calling my sponsor and I said, "Man, I can't tell you. This is amazing.

I done more today than I had the previous 10 years." I mean, who would have thought? He says, "Good job. Repaid 100." Click.

And this is it. Both you and the new man must walk day by day in the path of spiritual progress. If you persist, remarkable things will happen.

We realize when we look back or it says when we look back, we realize the things which come to us. We put our hel ourselves in God's hands were better than anything we could have planned. Follow the dictates of a higher power and you will presently live in a new and wonderful world.

No matter what your present circumstances, no matter how far down the scale we have gone, this works. It sure seems to. Thank you for having me.

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